Hello, hello.
everybody Welcome to the linguistic
live I'm I'm pleased to see that U an
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Ruba can I add you to this
conversation yes yes sure hello welcome
welcome you how are you I'm doing well
thank you how are you this this
afternoon I'm okay I'm okay and you I'm
I'm doing well thanks hello I hear some
people in the
background uh me it seems like a busy
house on your
end uh I don't uh play the camera I
think because I'm at
hairdresser ah no problem you're at the
hairdresser
oh that's funny so are you getting your
haircut in a special way is there a
special
occasion yes yes I will I will turn on
the camera but I know okay I
will there you
are yes I am I there you are hello hello
so you're you're getting uh are you are
you getting ready for a special event or
is this your no because the Christmas is
uh coming soon for that I make the color
of my hair oh yeah what what color is
your hair going to
be uh Fair blonde
blonde blonde yes blonde platin blonde
my
oh very blonde platinum blonde yeah yeah
wow
wow amazing and normally your hair is a
brown color brown color Yes Brown no
like you like me yeah oh that's funny
well great I'm I'm glad you you got an
appointment because that's not e
near
hairdresser yes yes
everybody
see I see the hairdresser doing some
work that's great
um we have we have somebody else who's
joined Kumba welcome Kumba hello hello
how are you I'm fine and you I'm doing
well thanks this is Ruba she's currently
at the hairdresser and she's dying her
hair blonde okay hi everyone hi Hi how
are you I think I uh I uh saw you um
yesterday yesterday yes I was you are FR
teacher too yes yes I'm a teacher teer
like like
look you
are you are between two FR teacher okay
you also you fren teacher or fren
teacher May right now I work another
team where is your head where is your
head hat
[Laughter]
your yes yes how are you today I'm fine
and you fine fine yesterday was very
amazing was very funny yes
yes yes okay how do you two know each
other you met yesterday we met yesterday
in sorry where did you meet uh at in the
conversation group oh okay excellent so
you're both at linguistic um to improve
your English yes yes yes
yes how was the conversation yesterday
were there a lot of people yes yesterday
I will send you the photo
because I don't have it I have it
I will uh I will send the
photo it was very I don't know how I can
send it right
now by chat you could you could send it
to the linguistic email and then we can
send it to Kumba I think
okay okay okay
okay yeah we'll find a way so when you
were at the conversation group somebody
took a photo of everyone
yes
yes oh Hamid took a photo of
everybody always happy always happy we
get very fun we
we he's he's always in a good mood yes
yes
yes yeah whenever I meet someone who's
always in a good mood I'm always a
little bit
suspicious there must be a time when
they just it all just comes down but
maybe not maybe Hamid is just
permanently yes he yes thank you very
very uh very funny yeah we had a a good
good time really with him interesting
time
yeah tell us about you me
no oh me you know what I'll tell you
something about me but first we have
another student who decided to join Dia
okay
hi I I guess you were part of the
conversation yesterday with Hamid yes
yes
great I how are
you fine and you fine fine thank you
doing well thank
you so I heard I heard yesterday
what's that
Ruba yes yes I
know yes Ruba is having her hair done
she's dying her hair the original color
is brown but she's dying it platinum
blonde for the
holidays Dia do do you ever dye your
hair yeah oh you do
right but do you know
uh doctor in the
hospital Doctor Who is a doctor
me Dia you're a doctor yeah yeah but in
my country not not here I see you will
you will be
hereo is is one of the reasons you're
practicing your English Dia so that you
can work as a doctor in
Quebec uh it's so difficult but I try it
okay there must be a lot of exams for
you to pass and complete the exams the
the exams in
English uh in English
wow in
English Okay do do you also have to
learn
French uh French I I did my uh formation
in
French okay so French is one of your
primary languages yeah yeah I see not
primary a second
uh my primary language is a
cab
Arabic Arab Arabic andab
okay Ruba and do you speak the same
language I speak Arabic I'm from Syria
okay I speak Arabic
uh I am right now I work as
secretary uh
is the group Gabriel group for the car
do you
know no I don't know what is it again
it's Gabriel group for the car for the
car
driving driving yeah no I I'm the
secretary of the
honor ah okay okay nice is it is it a
place that sells cars or that that
arranges
por porch
yeah
why I am my head
[Laughter]
I
okay you you have a nice
color thank you but I should make the
uh R it's it's not
good no when they
um the brushing when they make the
brushing for my hair will change the
color I went my hair dress to finish
another C then will be with me but it's
okay with you very happy I'm very happy
to meet you
here uh and me I put this uh once a year
uh just the white uh to cover the
white
hair once year
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maybe
yeah tell more about us where are you
from L myself I am I grew up in
Cyprus hi Cy
cus I have I have been there oh yeah in
in 20 uh 11 in
2011 great in in case you're unfamiliar
with the country Dia en Kumba it's a
it's an island in the
Mediterranean in the north there's
turkey in the south is Egypt Cypress is
a little island in the middle of the
Mediterranean and
it's it's like a Greek island we we
share a lot of our culture with Greece
there's name the name of the island
Cyprus French it's
sheep in Caribbean Island no it's not a
Caribbean Island it's it's like a Greek
island I can put it in the chat Cyprus
like
this that's how it's
written if you can see the
chat um but you know the girl in The
More Beautiful in the world the girl I
don't know why I
[Laughter]
left well there are lots of beautiful
women all over the world I'm happy to
report from my experience um so Ruba you
said you're from Syria yes and Dia where
do you come from Algeria Algeria okay
I'm from Algeria yeah I'm sure these are
things that you said yesterday in your
conversation group
yeah Kumba where are you from uh I'm
from Sagal seal is in the West Africa
near
Nigeria I me North Africa yes North
Africa M yes yeah nice and
I'm I'm I'm here since uh
2010 you've been here since 2010 okay I
study here
and now I'm teaching
French oh
excellent I'm currently trying to
improve my French my wife speaks French
so there's always an opportunity for me
to practice speaking but it's still a
challenge
yes it's so easy than than
English no it's easier than English
yeah
maybe very difficult very very difficult
yes very difficult yes the grammar of
the more difficult
than
mascul yes right yes yes I guess the
verbs are also more difficult in
you feel you feel the opposite way you
feel like English is harder to acquire
than
French okay yeah because I speak
French since I'm child I
see for that but the English should be
easy for you because you speak friend uh
it's so difficult for me I try but but
but I did
yeah right yes I think they same
vocabulary
pronunciation sometimes you even
discover a connection between a French
or English word and an Arabic word or
it's it's it's funny how that happens
yeah think in French and
me French and to translate in English
sometime is very difficult because
English is easier than French when you
think in French and you try to translate
yes and you try to translate it is very
difficult very
difficult cuz I it's not the same the
same because me I study in French French
is my first my first my official
language first official language I speak
my local
language but
uh I I found that English is
a more easy for Z
French more easy to understand
yes there are also lots of resources
online for English MH um I mean I
imagine you can also find resources for
French but English seems to really
dominate um YouTube for example a lot of
YouTube videos or Netflix a lot of shows
in
English which
language which language do I speak with
my wife we speak English it's sometimes
French sometimes
French
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good
well what do you say uh what do you say
say
uh you say speak something before before
me who's that me no
uh okay what is your
question we speak together I don't know
who speak with me I ah you hear sound
okay okay never mind never mind
yeah and now me what I do to help me
learning English is to put my phone in
English and good idea yes is a good idea
I know many word till I uh put my uh
language my phone in English and I try
to watch TV on English with a subtitle
me too but I I don't understand
anything Google Translate is my friend
now every time I take my phone to
translate what it helped me a
lot we try we try uh
see movies with my husband in English
but but I I don't understand really
really the American the American English
the pronunciation is so
difficult and uh when I began I I I make
many label in my uh house I put many
label in my uh in everything in my house
like uh the oven the table the print I I
I write word and I put it because I I I
I welcome class yeah and it is the
same
okay that's a good idea so you put
little labels all over your house yes
okay you can do it in in French also
it's a good idea or I'll just ask my
wife to work a little bit for me said
what's this what's this what's this like
a
child and Nick you are a
teacher yes I teach at um
I teach English at yeah okay
online no in person and then for
linguistic I create some online material
for the YouTube channel so if you visit
the YouTube channel and you watch a
video that's been published within the
last four months that's probably
something that I've made okay you
English yes an English teacher
yeah
exactly it's called laau
College it's downtown on St Catherine
Street if you've ever gone to Atwater
Metro or geek Concordia Metro it's
between those two stations okay okay I
ask you because my son is studying
in
okay school that's possible yeah what is
he studying uh he studied to be to
become a
nurse oh great we need more
nurses like you your son yes my
son it's hard work it's hard work isn't
it work very very hard work very
difficult Good Luck Good Luck Good Luck
like because is his choice I I had My my
what I have I had anything to to
say okay so it was just his idea to
become a nurse
yes
wow where did he get the
idea where did he get the idea why did
he want to become a nurse I don't know I
don't
know I don't know what what it it work
in the in teenager mind now I don't know
that's funny you can do it
Dia me yes uh I
think I can't I can't because I I I stud
I studied in in
Algeria 16 years uh
medicine I can't I can't
become
here 16
years medicine yes I know but to be to
enter I'm I'm I'm
the my specialty is infection disease
what infection
disase in
infe infectious diseases yes ah so so
your opinion would have been very useful
during the pandemic yeah say my my my
speciality very interesting we are the
first
line the H
yeah I can't it's so difficult I can't
become nurse here I can't I try uh I try
to learn English
to
to to do something
else
no my job not a
nurse your job to become doctor yeah
here it's very difficult here to become
doctor if you study uh AB
abroad I try
it I would try it so yeah on top of the
16 years in Algeria studying to become a
doctor now you have to do even more
years to teach in can sorry to uh to
work in
Canada and uh are you in the
process uh yes okay you are
yeah how how many more years will it
take if everything goes
well uh maybe
two oh okay you can do it only another
two years oh but it's a lot of studying
hey 16 plus
two I I would try it it's so difficult
but I I will try it how long has you
been here de H how long has you been
here two months two months okay yeah uh
I'm going to give you an advice
okay my my experience
okay uh go to study in the S to to be
nurse to begin your
career you are going to wait and you
lost
time uh
because
medicine is a very closed field
here very very closed you have to learn
here uh seven or eight year and to do
the exam of the order I don't know it is
a correct word order
medine yeah the order of nurses the
order okay it is very very a very close
field uh if I was you I'm going to
register in the S to do my
uh D EC CED
deck to become nurse and after you
continue otherwise you are going to lose
many many time me I I I I had master in
my
country M and I I start my uh High
degree uh uh stud uh studies in
University but when I come here I I got
a scholarship to come here when I come
here I I did my master in
ukam and and after after that I want to
be a teacher but they told me to do a
certificate certificate yes what
certificate
get because uh I had my I got my my my
degrees in uh okay in your country in my
country yeah okay I understand that
that's why every time they you to to do
uh to have a degree
here
okay is it is it easier uh Dia for you
to become a nurse at this point uh it's
easier but I can't I can't okay it seems
like it would be a different path uh
maybe maybe uh if I can't
um I can't do it here I will travel with
in other country maybe France or I can't
U stay here if
um right right we we feel like that
every every all all all immigrant Fields
have the feeling to to go back I don't
know to they took
to there's there's the feeling I can
that you want to move back to your home
Kumba no is that what you mean what do
you mean okay I for example you come
with your degree and uh uh when you
apply they tell you your degree is not
the the right one for example and you
feel
disappointed you understand what I
mean okay
but uh don't wait start your study and
uh go to study in the in the University
or in the S to have your degree your
degree from here and it help you very
well in your
career so don't give up keep studying
that's the message yes that's the
message that's the message today thank
you there you go thank you your advice
thank you
very someone else has joined chelum I
don't know if I'm saying that correctly
are you
there
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sh there I'm here
yes yes hello welcome were you part of
the conversation group yesterday as well
do you recognize these three
women uh well I practic the first time
uh to
listen um and the second time I will uh
speak because I haven't uh lot of words
for describing my uh
my
life I
understand
yes good morning good morning how are
you how good and you how are you fine
thank you I'm happy to uh to see you
thank you me
too how do you two know each
other I in
Les in lessons oh I see okay that's
good the course of conversation
together great okay it's very difficult
when you are acquiring a new language
because for a long time you're unable to
be yourself it seems like your
personality gets left behind a little
bit yes that's
it when as
as I began learning French I was very
frustrated because in English I have a
sense of humor but when I speak French
it's very difficult to make jokes to be
funny because I don't know what words to
use
exactly but uh I was surprised that you
know when I made an attempt it usually
worked
out so maybe it was all in my head but
anyway it can be a frustrating thing at
first that you you can't express
yourself as well as you'd like other
people don't really get to know you as
you would like to be
known
uh
so so I understand what you mean jum
when you say um you don't have enough
words to
describe um to describe your
life um it's a um I need some times for
uh do it okay you need to practice again
and again exactly okay you should start
practicing now tell us about your
[Laughter]
[Music]
life tell us where you're
from uh I am from
Algeria Ah that's how you that's why you
two were talking a little bit at the
beginning yes
okay did you ever meet each other in
Algeria did you know each other in
Algeria no no okay yeah very unlikely
but I thought I would ask the question
anyway Ruba I hope you don't mind I was
muting you a little bit because of the
noise in the hair
salon yes I make my my microphone muted
for the
noise around me right just
speak
his yes I
am how are you good thank
you I'm happy I'm happy to speak with
you me too me too I'm so happy to know a
person like you really really the group
very very nice group you should come
next
uh uh that's
right to make a to uh to show us life
you should
come like a big
family
yes H how long have you all been uh
taking classes with each
other what H how long have you uh been
in the same conversation group group
with each other uh two two weeks two
weeks okay me yesterday is my first one
oh it was your first class yesterday
okay yes no
I'm three
month wow three months three months I my
online
okay sorry Ruba I just muted you but
okay
uh the first time
uh online but I did online with Leona do
you know Leona Lea yes she's my
teacher my teacher
too very nice she is very
nice he talk with me like mother not
like
teach I love so
much he give us advice lot of
advice yes yes like Mom like Mom yes
like Mom I love her so much you should
you should be like
like like our
[Laughter]
father R I'm too young for that I
think I know have a beard
but it's not
white Lana will be your language mother
and I will be the language father
and the language the
language I mean the language
St oh my
goodness that's that's
fun
well do any of you listen to podcasts to
improve your English or do you find it's
a difficult way to uh
improve uh it's a difficult way to
improve
yet because for me for
me for
everybody for
everybody when the practice and the
vocabulary and yes and maybe a
pronunciation yeah pronunciation yes yes
a very big problem
pronunciation um we we must repeat every
day um uh some words and uh we we must
repeat rep
lot we have we have a course of
pronounce iation with Hamid the 13
January for three
hours uh it's I think it's a good idea
for three
hours Focus to the pronunciation and
practice I think it's a good idea that's
great I will
practice
particip good okay you plan on
participating you're going to
participate
yes okay the 13th of January at Saturday
9
A.M if you wanted to practice ahead of
that class did you know that the YouTube
channel has maybe 10 15 videos on
pronounciation
tips um I can uh share it with Hamid who
will send it to you or I can share it in
the WhatsApp group a link to the
videos if you think it will help
although I know it's always I think you
yes it's it's always more helpful to
practice in person with somebody else
but still a video can help with the
mood uh I don't know if they offer the
program like immersion no
immersion does does linguistic offer an
immersive course kind of English
immersion yes no I'm not sure I I mean
we should we should ask and uh find out
um I think it would be a good idea to do
that because
everybody tell me it is
the the best way to learn to learn a
language yes to be immersed completely
in the language completely you forget
your French your Arabic and only English
it's like being baptized yes completely
immersed in the new language you know I
I I found it very interesting when I
tried to immerse myself in French I
realized that part of the struggle is
the the challenge of letting go of your
other
language especially because I come from
a country where the main language is
Greek and when I began to immerse myself
in French I became a little angry I
thought why am I doing this I want to
speak Greek I don't want to speak French
so there was a bit of a psychological
battle I had to
fight yeah um but um I wonder if you
ever feel a kind of uh struggle like
that or if it's just a matter of
adjusting and you feel ready to adapt
and you're happy to adapt uh no Angry
very angry you are oh
okay me I love
English oh when I hear someone speaking
fluen English I'm uh come on on I'm
happy I I want to to to to speak like
that oh that's great you have this um
sense of motivation you really like the
idea of learning English Dia you're
struggling a bit more you're fighting a
battle yes and it is my on my list the
things I have to do before going away
passing
away okay now now you have to tell us
what else is on your
list what what are some other items on
your list okay to speak English Okay
friendly to
travel the world everywhere no not
everywhere at least 10 in 10 country
okay wow that's ambitious I want to take
my
retire
sooner okay to stop uh working teach
good good idea yes why no and think I
think this year I'm going to stop
teaching okay uh Ruba teacher
colleague hi colle how do you what do
you think about that you're going to
continue to teach or you stop you stop
no no I will uh I will make equivalent
for my master degree in um
uhal okay I will do the equalent for
work my right now I can't do it because
I
haven't right now I'm
the I'm not I haven't the final decision
of the tribal okay okay you should
I I should take this the approval of the
pral for continue my study in the
University
after that I will uh come back to the
university I will teach you the French
the French my PA of my life paent of my
life I want to continue this Pati you
know okay the teaching
is
mat difficult may very interesting
mat that the teaching profession
profession yes it's profession very
difficult but is very interesting
am this is my passion of my life I will
continue but right now I'm so happy in
my
work in my work I will try to improve my
English before I speak English very well
may I stop to speak because uh I uh
I teach the French for seven years seven
years for
that for that I forget the language
there are block block on my head I um
right now I remember the vocabulary I
remember the sentences I remember the
grammar uh for that I'm here um good
yeah I think when you get your paper you
are going to teach uh quickly because uh
there p p of teacher yes there are many
one of the
point I don't want to teach to teach in
the school I want to teach in the
University because in Alo I I teach in
university is a big difference
uh difference between the
two teach what
French yes I have master degree
of I
for as a foreign language yeah second
language French as a second language
yes
okay me I have my degree in
literature yeah hey I forgot it I'm a
writer
also oh yes you're a writer yes
writer my third book in January can yes
my my third your third book yes
I'm are you I think oh
yeah
okay Kumba can you show us one of your
books
yes oh there it is it's right there
Le
imig is the
first the first book Le deser that's the
first book we'll we'll find
out I I wonder what kind of book it is
is it a children's book is it a book for
sorry sorry
sorry
sorry this the first one okay de
de translator is the word we can't find
it in the library uh you can find it
online on
Amazon
immigration I found it I here's the link
it's in the
chat the will be published in
January
great
congratulations you you show us
uh you show us
the your book
my I will show you right now my
hairdresser
[Laughter]
Kumba shares her book with us and Ruba
shares her hairdresser with
us
congratulations thank you
congratulations very I'm
proud to know people like you or person
like you
too very
very uh we come here with
our our knowledge
our degree
and I understand that when she said I
don't want to restart my study I
understand you look look this is my
hairdresser say
[Laughter]
hi okay I should leave you right now
okay see you the next week okay bye
everybody good to see you by everybody
see you tomorrow everybody okay
tomorrow tomorrow tomorrow next week
what happened tomorrow no no no no sorry
Monday I forget my
[Laughter]
mind
okay bye
bye
okay okay what is a duration of
the ah well usually it's about 45
minutes if you want we can end here okay
um and uh if you're available next week
at the same time that'd be great I'd be
very curious to learn more about your
book
um on on Amazon on Amazon Amazon and
Amazon
okay yes you can bring bring it Monday
good
idea can bring in her book it is in
French it is in French right so you're
I'm I'm just curious I'll I'll ask this
question and then I'll I'll let you go
because I'm sure you have other things
to do but your first book de it looks
like it's a it's it's a novel for adults
not a novel it is a Roman a Roman a
novel like a story the novel is shorter
than
Roma oh okay okay and then the one that
you showed us um about immigration is
that another both R both Roma okay very
nice okay I'm I'm looking forward to
learning more about them learning more
about France in France for you ni good
for is good for for you but for you we
are learning
English yeah that's true perfect but uh
we can you can learn
it the second is about immigrant
immigration clandestine immigration
illegal immigration illegal
immigration yes because in Africa you
know that yeah it is a
what happened in
Africa yes yes
yeah you are here I'm here yes I
listen first I listen and the second
time I you see
you okay next next week you'll be uh
saying a lot more then
but whether you participate or not it's
great to have you thank you so much for
joining it's Lov to
meet and what was your name it's not sh
that's your surname what's your first
name uh
Rim
okay you to meet I have it's easy to
pronounce Kima
Kima Kima it sounds like an ice cream
shop I have a colleague who name is
k
okay well have have a good weekend
everybody thank you for joining a good
weekend thank you for all everybody bye
bye bye bye how to H
up
hello hello
everybody Welcome to the linguistic
live I'm I'm pleased to see that U an
individual has already joined us
Ruba can I add you to this
conversation yes yes sure hello welcome
welcome you how are you I'm doing well
thank you how are you this this
afternoon I'm okay I'm okay and you I'm
I'm doing well thanks hello I hear some
people in the
background uh me it seems like a busy
house on your
end uh I don't uh play the camera I
think because I'm at
hairdresser ah no problem you're at the
hairdresser
oh that's funny so are you getting your
haircut in a special way is there a
special
occasion yes yes I will I will turn on
the camera but I know okay I
will there you
are yes I am I there you are hello hello
so you're you're getting uh are you are
you getting ready for a special event or
is this your no because the Christmas is
uh coming soon for that I make the color
of my hair oh yeah what what color is
your hair going to
be uh Fair blonde
blonde blonde yes blonde platin blonde
my
oh very blonde platinum blonde yeah yeah
wow
wow amazing and normally your hair is a
brown color brown color Yes Brown no
like you like me yeah oh that's funny
well great I'm I'm glad you you got an
appointment because that's not e
near
hairdresser yes yes
everybody
see I see the hairdresser doing some
work that's great
um we have we have somebody else who's
joined Kumba welcome Kumba hello hello
how are you I'm fine and you I'm doing
well thanks this is Ruba she's currently
at the hairdresser and she's dying her
hair blonde okay hi everyone hi Hi how
are you I think I uh I uh saw you um
yesterday yesterday yes I was you are FR
teacher too yes yes I'm a teacher teer
like like
look you
are you are between two FR teacher okay
you also you fren teacher or fren
teacher May right now I work another
team where is your head where is your
head hat
[Laughter]
your yes yes how are you today I'm fine
and you fine fine yesterday was very
amazing was very funny yes
yes yes okay how do you two know each
other you met yesterday we met yesterday
in sorry where did you meet uh at in the
conversation group oh okay excellent so
you're both at linguistic um to improve
your English yes yes yes
yes how was the conversation yesterday
were there a lot of people yes yesterday
I will send you the photo
because I don't have it I have it
I will uh I will send the
photo it was very I don't know how I can
send it right
now by chat you could you could send it
to the linguistic email and then we can
send it to Kumba I think
okay okay okay
okay yeah we'll find a way so when you
were at the conversation group somebody
took a photo of everyone
yes
yes oh Hamid took a photo of
everybody always happy always happy we
get very fun we
we he's he's always in a good mood yes
yes
yes yeah whenever I meet someone who's
always in a good mood I'm always a
little bit
suspicious there must be a time when
they just it all just comes down but
maybe not maybe Hamid is just
permanently yes he yes thank you very
very uh very funny yeah we had a a good
good time really with him interesting
time
yeah tell us about you me
no oh me you know what I'll tell you
something about me but first we have
another student who decided to join Dia
okay
hi I I guess you were part of the
conversation yesterday with Hamid yes
yes
great I how are
you fine and you fine fine thank you
doing well thank
you so I heard I heard yesterday
what's that
Ruba yes yes I
know yes Ruba is having her hair done
she's dying her hair the original color
is brown but she's dying it platinum
blonde for the
holidays Dia do do you ever dye your
hair yeah oh you do
right but do you know
uh doctor in the
hospital Doctor Who is a doctor
me Dia you're a doctor yeah yeah but in
my country not not here I see you will
you will be
hereo is is one of the reasons you're
practicing your English Dia so that you
can work as a doctor in
Quebec uh it's so difficult but I try it
okay there must be a lot of exams for
you to pass and complete the exams the
the exams in
English uh in English
wow in
English Okay do do you also have to
learn
French uh French I I did my uh formation
in
French okay so French is one of your
primary languages yeah yeah I see not
primary a second
uh my primary language is a
cab
Arabic Arab Arabic andab
okay Ruba and do you speak the same
language I speak Arabic I'm from Syria
okay I speak Arabic
uh I am right now I work as
secretary uh
is the group Gabriel group for the car
do you
know no I don't know what is it again
it's Gabriel group for the car for the
car
driving driving yeah no I I'm the
secretary of the
honor ah okay okay nice is it is it a
place that sells cars or that that
arranges
por porch
yeah
why I am my head
[Laughter]
I
okay you you have a nice
color thank you but I should make the
uh R it's it's not
good no when they
um the brushing when they make the
brushing for my hair will change the
color I went my hair dress to finish
another C then will be with me but it's
okay with you very happy I'm very happy
to meet you
here uh and me I put this uh once a year
uh just the white uh to cover the
white
hair once year
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maybe
yeah tell more about us where are you
from L myself I am I grew up in
Cyprus hi Cy
cus I have I have been there oh yeah in
in 20 uh 11 in
2011 great in in case you're unfamiliar
with the country Dia en Kumba it's a
it's an island in the
Mediterranean in the north there's
turkey in the south is Egypt Cypress is
a little island in the middle of the
Mediterranean and
it's it's like a Greek island we we
share a lot of our culture with Greece
there's name the name of the island
Cyprus French it's
sheep in Caribbean Island no it's not a
Caribbean Island it's it's like a Greek
island I can put it in the chat Cyprus
like
this that's how it's
written if you can see the
chat um but you know the girl in The
More Beautiful in the world the girl I
don't know why I
[Laughter]
left well there are lots of beautiful
women all over the world I'm happy to
report from my experience um so Ruba you
said you're from Syria yes and Dia where
do you come from Algeria Algeria okay
I'm from Algeria yeah I'm sure these are
things that you said yesterday in your
conversation group
yeah Kumba where are you from uh I'm
from Sagal seal is in the West Africa
near
Nigeria I me North Africa yes North
Africa M yes yeah nice and
I'm I'm I'm here since uh
2010 you've been here since 2010 okay I
study here
and now I'm teaching
French oh
excellent I'm currently trying to
improve my French my wife speaks French
so there's always an opportunity for me
to practice speaking but it's still a
challenge
yes it's so easy than than
English no it's easier than English
yeah
maybe very difficult very very difficult
yes very difficult yes the grammar of
the more difficult
than
mascul yes right yes yes I guess the
verbs are also more difficult in
you feel you feel the opposite way you
feel like English is harder to acquire
than
French okay yeah because I speak
French since I'm child I
see for that but the English should be
easy for you because you speak friend uh
it's so difficult for me I try but but
but I did
yeah right yes I think they same
vocabulary
pronunciation sometimes you even
discover a connection between a French
or English word and an Arabic word or
it's it's it's funny how that happens
yeah think in French and
me French and to translate in English
sometime is very difficult because
English is easier than French when you
think in French and you try to translate
yes and you try to translate it is very
difficult very
difficult cuz I it's not the same the
same because me I study in French French
is my first my first my official
language first official language I speak
my local
language but
uh I I found that English is
a more easy for Z
French more easy to understand
yes there are also lots of resources
online for English MH um I mean I
imagine you can also find resources for
French but English seems to really
dominate um YouTube for example a lot of
YouTube videos or Netflix a lot of shows
in
English which
language which language do I speak with
my wife we speak English it's sometimes
French sometimes
French
[Music]
good
well what do you say uh what do you say
say
uh you say speak something before before
me who's that me no
uh okay what is your
question we speak together I don't know
who speak with me I ah you hear sound
okay okay never mind never mind
yeah and now me what I do to help me
learning English is to put my phone in
English and good idea yes is a good idea
I know many word till I uh put my uh
language my phone in English and I try
to watch TV on English with a subtitle
me too but I I don't understand
anything Google Translate is my friend
now every time I take my phone to
translate what it helped me a
lot we try we try uh
see movies with my husband in English
but but I I don't understand really
really the American the American English
the pronunciation is so
difficult and uh when I began I I I make
many label in my uh house I put many
label in my uh in everything in my house
like uh the oven the table the print I I
I write word and I put it because I I I
I welcome class yeah and it is the
same
okay that's a good idea so you put
little labels all over your house yes
okay you can do it in in French also
it's a good idea or I'll just ask my
wife to work a little bit for me said
what's this what's this what's this like
a
child and Nick you are a
teacher yes I teach at um
I teach English at yeah okay
online no in person and then for
linguistic I create some online material
for the YouTube channel so if you visit
the YouTube channel and you watch a
video that's been published within the
last four months that's probably
something that I've made okay you
English yes an English teacher
yeah
exactly it's called laau
College it's downtown on St Catherine
Street if you've ever gone to Atwater
Metro or geek Concordia Metro it's
between those two stations okay okay I
ask you because my son is studying
in
okay school that's possible yeah what is
he studying uh he studied to be to
become a
nurse oh great we need more
nurses like you your son yes my
son it's hard work it's hard work isn't
it work very very hard work very
difficult Good Luck Good Luck Good Luck
like because is his choice I I had My my
what I have I had anything to to
say okay so it was just his idea to
become a nurse
yes
wow where did he get the
idea where did he get the idea why did
he want to become a nurse I don't know I
don't
know I don't know what what it it work
in the in teenager mind now I don't know
that's funny you can do it
Dia me yes uh I
think I can't I can't because I I I stud
I studied in in
Algeria 16 years uh
medicine I can't I can't
become
here 16
years medicine yes I know but to be to
enter I'm I'm I'm
the my specialty is infection disease
what infection
disase in
infe infectious diseases yes ah so so
your opinion would have been very useful
during the pandemic yeah say my my my
speciality very interesting we are the
first
line the H
yeah I can't it's so difficult I can't
become nurse here I can't I try uh I try
to learn English
to
to to do something
else
no my job not a
nurse your job to become doctor yeah
here it's very difficult here to become
doctor if you study uh AB
abroad I try
it I would try it so yeah on top of the
16 years in Algeria studying to become a
doctor now you have to do even more
years to teach in can sorry to uh to
work in
Canada and uh are you in the
process uh yes okay you are
yeah how how many more years will it
take if everything goes
well uh maybe
two oh okay you can do it only another
two years oh but it's a lot of studying
hey 16 plus
two I I would try it it's so difficult
but I I will try it how long has you
been here de H how long has you been
here two months two months okay yeah uh
I'm going to give you an advice
okay my my experience
okay uh go to study in the S to to be
nurse to begin your
career you are going to wait and you
lost
time uh
because
medicine is a very closed field
here very very closed you have to learn
here uh seven or eight year and to do
the exam of the order I don't know it is
a correct word order
medine yeah the order of nurses the
order okay it is very very a very close
field uh if I was you I'm going to
register in the S to do my
uh D EC CED
deck to become nurse and after you
continue otherwise you are going to lose
many many time me I I I I had master in
my
country M and I I start my uh High
degree uh uh stud uh studies in
University but when I come here I I got
a scholarship to come here when I come
here I I did my master in
ukam and and after after that I want to
be a teacher but they told me to do a
certificate certificate yes what
certificate
get because uh I had my I got my my my
degrees in uh okay in your country in my
country yeah okay I understand that
that's why every time they you to to do
uh to have a degree
here
okay is it is it easier uh Dia for you
to become a nurse at this point uh it's
easier but I can't I can't okay it seems
like it would be a different path uh
maybe maybe uh if I can't
um I can't do it here I will travel with
in other country maybe France or I can't
U stay here if
um right right we we feel like that
every every all all all immigrant Fields
have the feeling to to go back I don't
know to they took
to there's there's the feeling I can
that you want to move back to your home
Kumba no is that what you mean what do
you mean okay I for example you come
with your degree and uh uh when you
apply they tell you your degree is not
the the right one for example and you
feel
disappointed you understand what I
mean okay
but uh don't wait start your study and
uh go to study in the in the University
or in the S to have your degree your
degree from here and it help you very
well in your
career so don't give up keep studying
that's the message yes that's the
message that's the message today thank
you there you go thank you your advice
thank you
very someone else has joined chelum I
don't know if I'm saying that correctly
are you
there
[Music]
sh there I'm here
yes yes hello welcome were you part of
the conversation group yesterday as well
do you recognize these three
women uh well I practic the first time
uh to
listen um and the second time I will uh
speak because I haven't uh lot of words
for describing my uh
my
life I
understand
yes good morning good morning how are
you how good and you how are you fine
thank you I'm happy to uh to see you
thank you me
too how do you two know each
other I in
Les in lessons oh I see okay that's
good the course of conversation
together great okay it's very difficult
when you are acquiring a new language
because for a long time you're unable to
be yourself it seems like your
personality gets left behind a little
bit yes that's
it when as
as I began learning French I was very
frustrated because in English I have a
sense of humor but when I speak French
it's very difficult to make jokes to be
funny because I don't know what words to
use
exactly but uh I was surprised that you
know when I made an attempt it usually
worked
out so maybe it was all in my head but
anyway it can be a frustrating thing at
first that you you can't express
yourself as well as you'd like other
people don't really get to know you as
you would like to be
known
uh
so so I understand what you mean jum
when you say um you don't have enough
words to
describe um to describe your
life um it's a um I need some times for
uh do it okay you need to practice again
and again exactly okay you should start
practicing now tell us about your
[Laughter]
[Music]
life tell us where you're
from uh I am from
Algeria Ah that's how you that's why you
two were talking a little bit at the
beginning yes
okay did you ever meet each other in
Algeria did you know each other in
Algeria no no okay yeah very unlikely
but I thought I would ask the question
anyway Ruba I hope you don't mind I was
muting you a little bit because of the
noise in the hair
salon yes I make my my microphone muted
for the
noise around me right just
speak
his yes I
am how are you good thank
you I'm happy I'm happy to speak with
you me too me too I'm so happy to know a
person like you really really the group
very very nice group you should come
next
uh uh that's
right to make a to uh to show us life
you should
come like a big
family
yes H how long have you all been uh
taking classes with each
other what H how long have you uh been
in the same conversation group group
with each other uh two two weeks two
weeks okay me yesterday is my first one
oh it was your first class yesterday
okay yes no
I'm three
month wow three months three months I my
online
okay sorry Ruba I just muted you but
okay
uh the first time
uh online but I did online with Leona do
you know Leona Lea yes she's my
teacher my teacher
too very nice she is very
nice he talk with me like mother not
like
teach I love so
much he give us advice lot of
advice yes yes like Mom like Mom yes
like Mom I love her so much you should
you should be like
like like our
[Laughter]
father R I'm too young for that I
think I know have a beard
but it's not
white Lana will be your language mother
and I will be the language father
and the language the
language I mean the language
St oh my
goodness that's that's
fun
well do any of you listen to podcasts to
improve your English or do you find it's
a difficult way to uh
improve uh it's a difficult way to
improve
yet because for me for
me for
everybody for
everybody when the practice and the
vocabulary and yes and maybe a
pronunciation yeah pronunciation yes yes
a very big problem
pronunciation um we we must repeat every
day um uh some words and uh we we must
repeat rep
lot we have we have a course of
pronounce iation with Hamid the 13
January for three
hours uh it's I think it's a good idea
for three
hours Focus to the pronunciation and
practice I think it's a good idea that's
great I will
practice
particip good okay you plan on
participating you're going to
participate
yes okay the 13th of January at Saturday
9
A.M if you wanted to practice ahead of
that class did you know that the YouTube
channel has maybe 10 15 videos on
pronounciation
tips um I can uh share it with Hamid who
will send it to you or I can share it in
the WhatsApp group a link to the
videos if you think it will help
although I know it's always I think you
yes it's it's always more helpful to
practice in person with somebody else
but still a video can help with the
mood uh I don't know if they offer the
program like immersion no
immersion does does linguistic offer an
immersive course kind of English
immersion yes no I'm not sure I I mean
we should we should ask and uh find out
um I think it would be a good idea to do
that because
everybody tell me it is
the the best way to learn to learn a
language yes to be immersed completely
in the language completely you forget
your French your Arabic and only English
it's like being baptized yes completely
immersed in the new language you know I
I I found it very interesting when I
tried to immerse myself in French I
realized that part of the struggle is
the the challenge of letting go of your
other
language especially because I come from
a country where the main language is
Greek and when I began to immerse myself
in French I became a little angry I
thought why am I doing this I want to
speak Greek I don't want to speak French
so there was a bit of a psychological
battle I had to
fight yeah um but um I wonder if you
ever feel a kind of uh struggle like
that or if it's just a matter of
adjusting and you feel ready to adapt
and you're happy to adapt uh no Angry
very angry you are oh
okay me I love
English oh when I hear someone speaking
fluen English I'm uh come on on I'm
happy I I want to to to to speak like
that oh that's great you have this um
sense of motivation you really like the
idea of learning English Dia you're
struggling a bit more you're fighting a
battle yes and it is my on my list the
things I have to do before going away
passing
away okay now now you have to tell us
what else is on your
list what what are some other items on
your list okay to speak English Okay
friendly to
travel the world everywhere no not
everywhere at least 10 in 10 country
okay wow that's ambitious I want to take
my
retire
sooner okay to stop uh working teach
good good idea yes why no and think I
think this year I'm going to stop
teaching okay uh Ruba teacher
colleague hi colle how do you what do
you think about that you're going to
continue to teach or you stop you stop
no no I will uh I will make equivalent
for my master degree in um
uhal okay I will do the equalent for
work my right now I can't do it because
I
haven't right now I'm
the I'm not I haven't the final decision
of the tribal okay okay you should
I I should take this the approval of the
pral for continue my study in the
University
after that I will uh come back to the
university I will teach you the French
the French my PA of my life paent of my
life I want to continue this Pati you
know okay the teaching
is
mat difficult may very interesting
mat that the teaching profession
profession yes it's profession very
difficult but is very interesting
am this is my passion of my life I will
continue but right now I'm so happy in
my
work in my work I will try to improve my
English before I speak English very well
may I stop to speak because uh I uh
I teach the French for seven years seven
years for
that for that I forget the language
there are block block on my head I um
right now I remember the vocabulary I
remember the sentences I remember the
grammar uh for that I'm here um good
yeah I think when you get your paper you
are going to teach uh quickly because uh
there p p of teacher yes there are many
one of the
point I don't want to teach to teach in
the school I want to teach in the
University because in Alo I I teach in
university is a big difference
uh difference between the
two teach what
French yes I have master degree
of I
for as a foreign language yeah second
language French as a second language
yes
okay me I have my degree in
literature yeah hey I forgot it I'm a
writer
also oh yes you're a writer yes
writer my third book in January can yes
my my third your third book yes
I'm are you I think oh
yeah
okay Kumba can you show us one of your
books
yes oh there it is it's right there
Le
imig is the
first the first book Le deser that's the
first book we'll we'll find
out I I wonder what kind of book it is
is it a children's book is it a book for
sorry sorry
sorry
sorry this the first one okay de
de translator is the word we can't find
it in the library uh you can find it
online on
Amazon
immigration I found it I here's the link
it's in the
chat the will be published in
January
great
congratulations you you show us
uh you show us
the your book
my I will show you right now my
hairdresser
[Laughter]
Kumba shares her book with us and Ruba
shares her hairdresser with
us
congratulations thank you
congratulations very I'm
proud to know people like you or person
like you
too very
very uh we come here with
our our knowledge
our degree
and I understand that when she said I
don't want to restart my study I
understand you look look this is my
hairdresser say
[Laughter]
hi okay I should leave you right now
okay see you the next week okay bye
everybody good to see you by everybody
see you tomorrow everybody okay
tomorrow tomorrow tomorrow next week
what happened tomorrow no no no no sorry
Monday I forget my
[Laughter]
mind
okay bye
bye
okay okay what is a duration of
the ah well usually it's about 45
minutes if you want we can end here okay
um and uh if you're available next week
at the same time that'd be great I'd be
very curious to learn more about your
book
um on on Amazon on Amazon Amazon and
Amazon
okay yes you can bring bring it Monday
good
idea can bring in her book it is in
French it is in French right so you're
I'm I'm just curious I'll I'll ask this
question and then I'll I'll let you go
because I'm sure you have other things
to do but your first book de it looks
like it's a it's it's a novel for adults
not a novel it is a Roman a Roman a
novel like a story the novel is shorter
than
Roma oh okay okay and then the one that
you showed us um about immigration is
that another both R both Roma okay very
nice okay I'm I'm looking forward to
learning more about them learning more
about France in France for you ni good
for is good for for you but for you we
are learning
English yeah that's true perfect but uh
we can you can learn
it the second is about immigrant
immigration clandestine immigration
illegal immigration illegal
immigration yes because in Africa you
know that yeah it is a
what happened in
Africa yes yes
yeah you are here I'm here yes I
listen first I listen and the second
time I you see
you okay next next week you'll be uh
saying a lot more then
but whether you participate or not it's
great to have you thank you so much for
joining it's Lov to
meet and what was your name it's not sh
that's your surname what's your first
name uh
Rim
okay you to meet I have it's easy to
pronounce Kima
Kima Kima it sounds like an ice cream
shop I have a colleague who name is
k
okay well have have a good weekend
everybody thank you for joining a good
weekend thank you for all everybody bye
bye bye bye how to H
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